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My Journey

04/07/08

Permalink 06:44:56 am, by dissidens Email , 831 words, 778 views   English (US)
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My Journey

We seek to follow the way of God revealed to us in Jesus Christ, study the grand narrative of the Bible, and learn from the fullness of Christian tradition. We recognize our human condition of brokenness and seek the wholeness that Christ continually offers. We believe intentional communication with God through sacred acts of prayer, communion, worship, art, music, silence and meditation on Scripture is imperative to life with God. We desire to be holistic, integrated people, believing that following God encompasses obedience in every part of our lives, and that both big and small decisions are matters of faith.

I drove down to the Journey church in Dallas.

It meets in an office park just off I-635. On Sunday evening at 5:10 p.m. there is only a janitorial crew and milling church attenders. The parking lot has a very modest collection of middle-class cars, and inside the very corporate-looking digs is an accidental collection of bad religious wall hangings: some small, cheap reproductions of Orthodox saints and color photographs of lawn ornament angels. Along the back wall is a table and bulletin board pushing the One Campaign and some ineffectual, feel-good activism on behalf of the people in Darfur.

The conspicuously disheveled room had four monitors and a big screen with a meaningless visual and the word "Journey" at the top. The blinds were closed and the recessed florescent lights were off. All that lit the room was accent lighting. The only task lighting was a pair of weak spots to light the face of the speaker/speakerette. All the background music, both for the pre-service and the public singing, is being played from a laptop through amplifiers and huge speakers which dominate the room. There is a mismatched set of church pews and some shabby, not entirely healthy-looking sofas. Most of the people were middle-class, young and white, but there were a few middle-aged white couples adding a touch of diversity to the group.

The pastorette walked up and introduced herself by telling me she recognized me from my earlier visits. I was surprised to learn this. I thought I would have remembered. But before I could argue with her I lost interest in the conversation. The worship monitors began showing a digital count-down clock reminding us how much later than the posted time this meeting would begin.

Three people picked up some guitars and a girl began telling the group about a recent activity and about how wonderful it was. The guitarists started strumming their instruments and moving about with those unnatural gestures that substitute for the invocation of the Muse. The congregation began singing alternative settings to When I Survey and Here I Am to Worship. (Between numbers everyone waits reverently while a guitarist/worship leader puts the next selection up on the screen.) They sang the original Stephen Foster song Hard Times and a really sticky him-and-her version of In the Garden.

And when I say the congregation sang, what I mean is that while the guitars and amplified canned music was drowning out all other noises, I saw the people's lips move in that reverent way crazy people recite memories to themselves.

The preacherette stood up, dismissed the children to the nursery, and told us that at their Wednesday leaders' planning meeting they'd read in Luke's Gospel the account of the road to Emmaus. I gather from her description that they were all pretty confused as to what to do with the narrative and apparently rejected it as a workable sermon text. During the week, however, the preacherette experienced some random thoughts—her words—and she decided to share them with us. She warned us that they might seem a little wacky, but she held out the promise that we could discuss her wacky ideas later.

It seems that after reading some unidentified writing of N.T. Wright she came to the conclusion that Easter was something of a pre-resurrection resurrection, "the beginning of the beginning" and "the in-breaking of a new reality".

Then the preacherette opened the meeting up for discussion. The chatter matched the décor perfectly: slovenly eclectic: clutter significant of nothing at all. Prefacing his remarks one of the guitarists admitted that they did not have it all together. Another person offered an observation that there was a certain tension between resurrection and resurrection.

All in all the experience seemed to bear out the quotations found on their website:

"Roaming through the night to find our place in this world."

and

"We'll see you after the rapture!"

Following the discussion was communion. All those who wanted to could go to the middle of the room and casually get a piece of store-bought challah to dip in a nearby glass of wine. As people filed through the room a solitary girl knelt to pray before a tiny collection of votive candles and a framed statement about praying before votive candles.

I left.

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1 Comment from: Unk [Visitor] Email
I love the blurb on the music page as it really put the whole thing in historical perspective for me.
PermalinkPermalink 04/07/08 @ 07:15

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2 Comment from: dissidens [Member] Email
Yes, a profound understanding of the Western tradition informs their thinking.

It's like totally awesome.
PermalinkPermalink 04/07/08 @ 07:30

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3 Comment from: Derek [Visitor] Email
This was a very informative critical review. I appreciate the effort you take to go out of your way to provide these insights and commentaries. I think what I admire most about your approach is your complete objectification and devaluing of the human subjects you are examining. Your intellectual courage to adhere to a purely objective assessment informed only by your own values, contexts, and perceptions, totally eschewing any attempt at dialouge with the subjects in under observation--and thereby eliminating the insidious pollution of subjectivity into your resulting conclusions--is to be applauded and should serve as a guiding model for interactions between people groups, especially those adhering to variants of the Christian faith. Well done!
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4 Comment from: lc [Visitor] Email
Could you tell us a little about the conversations you had with people there? I suspect your ecclesiology goes beyond mere form, and I'd be interested to know what you were able to glean by interacting with the folks there.
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5 Comment from: becki [Visitor] Email · http://www.wehavebigplans.blogspot.com
I don't go to Journey but I know of it and have visited before and have friends that attend there. Can I ask you what your ideal church experience would be? It sounds kind of like you were determined to find no good in the experience from the start. When I'm visiting churches, I usually will try to keep an open mind and understand and be compassionate to the fact that people worship in different ways and even if I don't agree with everything, I'm at least willing to think about it.

It also sounds like you're making some judgments based on the amount of money they spend on their environment and personal vehicles, as well as communion bread, and I'm not really sure that should have much to do with the quality of worship, so I'm not sure why you mentioned any of that.

I'm really interested in a response if you get a chance.
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6 Comment from: k [Visitor] · http://www.patrobertson.com/
Journey is doing something right if it's getting this passive aggressive dumb ass to write a 9 paragraph "review" of it. I think I might visit, as I am a big fan of pastor(ettes) and recessed lighting.

P.S. You need an editor, fundie blog man.



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7 Comment from: z [Visitor] Email · http://www.zurielbarron.com
K,

We might not agree with dissidens 'review' of our church, but we will also not resort to name calling when trying to understand and engage in a conversation about his beliefs.
PermalinkPermalink 04/08/08 @ 10:42

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8 Comment from: Chris [Visitor] Email
Whoa, dissidens found some people who woke up with some wicked hangovers from whatever was in that "communion" cup.

I wonder what these variants of the Christian faith would say if you plopped down on one of those gnarly couches and asked them what you must do to be saved. One would imagine that excellent specimens of holistic and integrated sentences would come fountaining out of them.

By the way, was there any home-grown art there, or was the lighting too low to notice? They advertise art as a sacred act by which they intend to communicate with God; I'm wondering what it looks like.
PermalinkPermalink 04/08/08 @ 11:06

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9 Comment from: MetaphysicalRealist [Member] Email
~

What I think is interesting is the tag I saw:

"We belive [sic] in absolute truthiness"

What do you think they mean by "truthiness"? Perhaps one of the viewers wouldn't mind answering a question.

~MR
PermalinkPermalink 04/08/08 @ 11:20

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10 Comment from: dissidens [Member] Email
Thanks, Derek. I’m humbled. I didn’t mean for it to be anything so grand as a “model”, but if enough people find it as helpful as you did, perhaps I should think about going back for pictures and turning it into some sort of PowerPoint presentation.

I’ll give that some thought.

I must correct you on one point, though. I wasn’t after anyone’s personal opinion or subjective assessments. If you cast your mind back to my post, I began by quoting a small portion of the church’s website; this was its claim, this was its statement of “core values”. (Please don’t treat my epigraphs the way your pastor treats sermon texts…“and now for something completely different”.) What I wanted to know was what all those fancy buzzwords meant.

For example: what do they mean when they talk about a “grand narrative”? What would a commitment to a grand narrative look like in a church service? Would it perhaps be the reading of a short text, a confession of perplexity over the meaning of this “poofing” Jesus, and then a total abandonment of the text in favor of some rickety speculation about things not even mentioned in the text? Things apparently left over from the Easter messages?

Here’s another example: if a group of people—let’s call them a “community” just to be sardonic—held that they intentionally communicated with God through sacred acts of prayer, communion, worship, art, music, silence and meditation on Scripture, what would that look like? So I went to see acts of prayer, communion, worship, art, music, silence and meditation on Scripture.

It is as though I were investigating the effects of alcohol on a driver and you were to complain that I didn’t ask the drunk how he felt about it. I’m sure there were many wonderful things being felt in that room Sunday night. I know I was having some pretty strong feelings myself. Those feelings would be interesting, I don’t deny it. But let’s leave that for another post. I’m looking into the events, liturgies, rituals, etc. that occasion those feelings.

Remember: “acts of prayer, communion, worship, art, music, silence and meditation on Scripture”, not subjective assessments of “acts of prayer, communion, worship, art, music, silence and meditation on Scripture” going on in the vicinity.

As for your last paragraph, I think we might have the slightest of disagreements over whether Journey church is a variant of the Christian faith.

lc:

Was there something in the communal service done wrongly (or done so badly) that my impression could have been corrected by a conversation with the individuals separately? What about a consensus of selected individuals? What about a consensus of all the individuals? And if there were a difference, what would be your definition of worship, what I observed and felt or what they tell me they felt?

becki:

You seem like a sweet person, but I know that what seems is not always what is. So forgive me for asking: Do you really believe what you just said? Is this a safe attitude to take all the time? For instance, do you take this attitude with you to a Klan Rally if they just called themselves a new kind of church? How about a band of terrorists calling themselves a church?

Are you really as sweet as you make out?

k:

We can’t afford a really high-quality editor. We budgeted for it, but someone got a little too frisky when ordering our sound system which is really sick.

MetaphysicalRealist:

You find out what truthiness means and I’ll find out what absolute means.


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11 Comment from: exlibris [Visitor] Email
Wow, throw a rock into a pack of dogs and . . .

Derek at least passed high school. Subject-verb-object sentences are a clue. Becky, very likely, fits a similar scholastic model. She could be swindled in an instant by some fast talking street vendor in NYC. But, the initialed Klan leaves me befuddled. Who let the junior high set play with Mom and Dad's computer? Have they no filtering devices?? Remonstrans is considered adult content.

May/be "belive" is (in)tentional. The (e)mergent crowd makes (e)normous freight on this sort of (per)version. Ambiguity is their MO. You had better find the meeting of that simmingly dispelled wort. Also, when you (dis)a-gree with them, and (con)struct an argument against their view/s, you will always be (con)sidered to be (per)petrating violence. (Dis)agreement a/companied by argument is violence a la Derrida.

Enjoy your trip down the rabbit hole.
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12 Comment from: becki [Visitor] Email · http://www.wehavebigplans.blogspot.com
Ha ha ha ha! Yes I definitely am just as sweet as I make out!

And hilariousness aside, I actually do believe what I wrote. As far as my own faith is concerned, I try to continually remember that I don't have it (and never will) completely figured out. Because of this I try to be open to the idea that someone's ideas, even if they seem radical to me, are worth consideration, or at least research. The bible is full of radical ideas and the "church's" initial (and sometimes lasting) resistance to them. I'm definitely not saying that if someone presents a view point like, "hey y'all, let's bomb people for Jesus." that I'm going to say, "well.....I disagree initially, however....I should at least look into it before I make an official decision."

Some teachings/churches I've experienced I'm able to say, okay, no definitely don't agree with that, because I've already thought about it (or read about it) and concluded that I feel differently, or sometimes just because it's ridiculous.

I guess my concern was just the manner in which you presented this blog. I tend to err on the side of empathy and wanting to gain complete understanding rather than assuming the worst. I think conversation and asking questions opens up a lot more doors.

So now it's your turn to answer my question.

Sincerely,
SWEET FACE!
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13 Comment from: dissidens [Member] Email
My dearest SWEET FACE!:

So you won’t bomb people for Jesus; that attitude sounds way too rigid, too doctrinaire for me. And stiff-necked. I don’t approve of stiff-neckedness at all, and I know the Bible doesn’t.

See, I don’t think you can put God in a box that way. I don’t think any one person (or group of people) can just impose his belief system on everyone else and stand up and speak for God like that. It’s never as simple as to-bomb-or-not-to-bomb. That’s just a simplistic view of God. I have a very capacious orthodoxy.

If God wanted me to bomb people for Jesus, I would be zipping up my flight suit and scrawling Psalm 2:4 on the nose cone of all the missiles my plane would carry.

I didn’t answer your question earlier because I didn’t know how much of my answer to Derek would satisfy you.

My ideal church experience would be that when people come together they make statements and share sentiments about God that are a) true, b) felt in the heart and c) held in common with saints everywhere. But that’s just my short definition. I could go on at length, but without an editor that might strike some as gratuitous.
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14 Comment from: A-nonymous [Visitor] Email
journey saved my life. so...say what you will. but good things will continue to happen and god will continue to work through this church and the pastorette, whether you are a fan or not.
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15 Comment from: dissidens [Member] Email
Yes, I have a friend who was once saved by a guardrail on a hairpin turn, and I also saw a cartoon where the main character (and a very likable mouse in large trousers) was saved in a fall from a tall building by a canvas awning.

For us to be talking about the same salvation requires that we define our terms. I know what it means to be saved by a guardrail or an awning. I know what it means to save one’s life by getting off drugs. I have no idea how Journey saved your life.

So I’m happy about your salvation.

At least I am as happy as I can be without knowing who saved you and from what.
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16 Comment from: JesusLover [Visitor]
I sincerely hope your rhetorical masturbation helps relieve the frustration from your celibacy, because you are clearly doing nothing to promote beauty or goodness. However, in the future, I suggest you try porn; you seem sufficiently "web-savvy" to find it without any links I might post. And if you're careful enough, no one has to know. This approach may avoid offending large groups people, but I guess you don't care so much about people.

Also, I consider the time I spent reading this blog time wasted. So please feel free to respond with vigor, because I will not read it.
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17 Comment from: dissidens [Member] Email
And has porn helped you with your own frustrations?
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18 Comment from: de profundis [Visitor] Email
My condolences, I must have missed Mrs. Diss' obituary.
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19 Comment from: de profundis [Visitor] Email
But I'll be looking for yours if you decide to take JesusLover's advice.
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20 Comment from: dissidens [Member] Email
I’m gonna take a really wild guess and say only an Emergent would take such a nick to recommend porn.

Maybe we can send him a set of praying hands as a parting gift.
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