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Ye Which Are Spiritual

05/28/08

Permalink 05:31:53 am, by dissidens Email , 327 words, 276 views   English (US)
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Ye Which Are Spiritual

Come, crown my brow with leaves of myrtle!
I know the tortoise is a turtle.
Come, carve my name in stone immortal!
I know the tortoise is a tortle.
I know to my profound despair-
I bet on one to beat a hare.
I also know I'm now a pauper
Because of its tortly, turtly, torpor.

With turtly torpor Willow Creaky Community Church advances with the times. It is following through on its cutting-edge study:

After modeling a seeker-sensitive approach to church growth for three decades, Willow Creek Community Church now plans to gear its weekend services toward mature believers seeking to grow in their faith.

Reflect with profound despair: if you were twenty years old when you began attending this hot, promising, relevant church, you would now be nagged with junk mail from AARP, and finally somebody got the clever idea to do a study on the effectiveness of its work. Now that your grandchildren are off in college, your local fellowship of the saints has decided to crack open a Bible.

Showers of blessing, Send them upon us O Lord;
Grant to us now a refreshing, Come and now honor Thy Word.

And there's Mark Galli, one of Christianity Today's in-house philosophers asks if this concern for spiritual maturity is not a bit too self-centered.

Which brings us to those "fully devoted followers of Jesus Christ." They are not "being fed," they say. They are not getting enough in-depth Bible teaching. They are so discouraged about the church's inability to help them grow, they are ready to quit. Does it strike anyone else that these followers have missed a crucial part of what it means to be fully devoted to Jesus?

And with an irony that truly satisfies my deepest hunger, I read that Bill Hybels is preaching [May 31-June 1] a sermonette entitled "Have You Died Yet?"

What a shepherd of souls. After thirty years of starvation.

Have you died yet?

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1 Comment from: MAS [Visitor] Email
So these supposedly "mature believers" are, like a bunch of newborn infants, longing and crying out for the pure milk of the Word? How self-serving. Honestly, who cares whether they grow in respect to salvation? Any pastor worth his salt should see that such desires are totally unbiblical.
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2 Comment from: dissidens [Member] Email
It makes one wonder what sort of person expects service without proper nutrition.

Oh yeah! Now I remember.

A concentration camp Kommandant.
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3 Comment from: Wamalo [Visitor] Email
So if I understand this correctly, Willow Creek becomes the poster child for the seeker sensitive movement and rides the crest of that fad. One of the reasons cited for the 'emergence' of the Emergent movement is a reaction against the seeker sensitive movement. The popularity of the seeker sensitive model begins to wane. Emergent becomes popular. Willow Creek conduct a survey (which they later bundle into a nice marketable package) and catch the 'wake up call' of their lives. Next thing all personalities emergent become the keynote speakers of their 2008 conferences. Is there more to this than meets the eye?
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4 Comment from: dissidens [Member] Email
Well, I suppose if I were to take issue with you it would be in calling Willow Creek a posterchild. Willow Creek is more like the fountainhead, and Hybels the Imperious Leader of the movement. I attended Willow Creek often enough to get a fair sense of what they were about and interviewed people such as their drama pastor, and I do not get the sense that Willow Creek exists to enlist sympathy. They see themselves as the most aggressive and forward-thinking expression of pop religion.

And emergents oppose all sorts of religious constituencies: seeker-sensitive (which some of us said all along and as we now all know means church-insensitive), fundamentalist, megachurches of any sort…

I think it is fair to say that my problem with emergence is not even theological, it is philosophical. It’s not just that we can’t do church together, we couldn’t even do anything else together that involves truth claims, integrity, reason. For instance there’s no way I would play baseball with Tony Jones, and I certainly wouldn’t leave my watch in the dugout.

But the Willow Creeks of the world will do whatever their studies tell them is effective. They would marinate and grill puppy dogs if it filled the parking lot. It’ll be interesting to watch what comes of the friction between emergence and seeker-sensitivity.
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