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Feral Christians

10/10/08

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Feral Christians

Richard Weaver observed that a concern for the state of one's culture tends to start at the top and gradually work its way down to the lowest levels of society: its popular organs of discussion and—if I can join in his observation—its most frivolous men.

You know that when emergents and fundamentalists become interested in culture it is time to order a casket and book the gravedigger. Here is Doug Pagitt again, meandering through some incoherent guesses about culture and reprising his ignorance of Plato.

And Brian McCrorie reminds us that:

1. defining beauty is not an exact science,
2. defining beauty involves creation and culture which are tainted by the curse,
3. we are free to discern what is acceptable in the arts,
4. the church doesn't have to arrive at an aesthetic ethic, and
5. this is all largely a matter of opinion, preference, and taste.

With this collection of boors, bumpkins and buffoons, what are the chances we will ever see a useful culture? As I riffle my chips I place our chances at a nice round number.

Where might culture come from? Look at what has been produced by (post)modern cretins; to call it freakish and ugly would be to engage in cruel flattery.

But while Pagitt and McCrorie are off "discerning what is acceptable", let us remind ourselves what we have lost.

This great yearning of man to be something in the imaginative sense, that is, to be something more than he is in the simple existential way or in the reductionist formula of materialism is both universal and proper to him. The latter may be asserted because he is the only creature who asks the question why he is here and who feels thwarted in his self-realization until some kind of answer is produced.  This urge to be representative of something higher is an active ingredient of his specific humanity; it has created everything from the necklace of animal teeth with which the primitive adorns his body to the elaborate constructions which the men of high cultures have made to interpret the meaning of life and their mission in it. This is the point at which he departs from the purely utilitarian course and makes of himself a being with significance. It is a refutation of all simplistic histories and psychologies, but it is one of the most verifiable facts about man. *

There was a time when worship and liturgy were the definitive ways man located the meaning of his life and determined his mission in it. It was also the proper way of sharing that meaning with his neighbor. He could commiserate in his sufferings and he could exult in his joys. Try doing that with the degenerates filing into the auditorium for the Contemporary Worship Service. We cannot even share our maudlin religious rites.

It is not insignificant that our contemporaries' boorish apprehension of permanent things spans the religious horizon. Each little band of philistines is smug in the knowledge that it is better than the little band of philistines camped on the other side of the hill, and it never occurs to any of them to question the meaning of "better". If they thought about it—and we can be sure they haven't—determining the meaning of better is just as tainted by the curse as everything else.

What is your image of culture? That is something your children had better know before they leave the house. In fact, three questions should be answered satisfactorily before they're encouraged to start a home of their own.

  • What is in your mind when you think about God?
  • What is in your mind when you think about culture?
  • What is in your mind when you think about worship?

Suppose what you think about God is not consistent with his true nature? What if your ideas of culture are incompatible with Bach's? Imagine that your preferences are at odds with Abraham's and St. John's.

Would that trouble you at all?

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* Richard M. Weaver, Visions of Order, p. 10.

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1 Comment from: Todd Mitchell [Visitor] Email · http://www.firstbaptistgranitefalls.org
A few years ago a Fundamentalist youth pastor admonished us parents to avoid serious conversations with our teenagers. He said that if we told our teenagers we wanted to talk with them, and our teenagers thought, "Oh no, here comes another serious conversation," then we're being too serious.

He said that our teenagers should actually be surprised if we ever started a serious conversation. His recommendation was that the next time we wanted to have a serious conversation, we instead take our teenagers out for ice cream.

That is a pretty good description of most youth ministry in Fundagelicalism.

It's hard to imagine exploring these three excellent questions when you studiously avoid exploring anything warmer than ice cream.
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2 Comment from: dissidens [Member] Email

It would be coy of me to say that it’s incredible that a shepherd of the flock should say such a thing.

Of course it’s credible. Outrageous, but entirely believable.

Someone entrusted the care of young souls to this clod; this clod who professes an absolute loyalty to the Scripture which strictly requires that parents speak seriously to their children morning, noon and night.

Did this clod have children of his own? and are they in prison?
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3 Comment from: sofros [Visitor] Email
I wish the parents of the teens in my youth group would have serious conversations with their children. The difficulty is, the parents are unable to have serious conversations themselves. We have entire levels of generations that do not understand the concept of culture, goodness, beauty, and truth. At what point can we actually begin to lay a new foundation upon the rubble that lays before us? Dare we even try? How do you reach a generation of youth whose parents are utterly against the voices trying to conserve the traditions of Christianity (most of them are ignorant of their transgressions)?
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4 Comment from: dissidens [Member] Email

That is the saddest part. There is nothing we can do.

First, we can’t build a foundation on rubble. The essence of a foundation is stability; the essence of rubble is instability. From fundamentalists to emergents we have nothing but generations of rubble-dwellers. Second, these people don’t even recognize it as rubble; they have such a strong sentimental attachment to the rubble that they are unwilling to clear the land of what they cherish.

They don’t want a real home; they want the idea of a real home.

I believe it is a worse mistake to try: it leaves people smug in the assumption that they are doing something beneficial. American Christianity is like those most deprived suburbs of the world where people make their huts out of sheets of corrugated steel, lengths of pipe and storm debris propped up against their neighbor’s hut.

As you say, fundamentalists have worked against culture and now they want us to take them seriously. Campus Life had on an Ignite magazine cover: Laugh It Up: God isn’t just about serious stuff. Emergents believe that profanity is a mark of authenticity.

Somehow I don’t see a cathedral in their future.

I really do think the herculean task that remains for us is to salvage the little that remains. If we can begin to discriminate between good and bad we can at least keep what was given to us. When we can distinguish between a real pianist and a vain gospelpianobanger, then we will begin to find our way.
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5 Comment from: Sam H [Member] Email
Perhaps I have misread you before, or am doing so now, but you almost seemed, dare I say, hopeful in the last paragraph of the above post.

At our little church, where I pastor, we are working hard at worshiping God in a Christ-pleasing way. I am constantly digging about for music which has value--from yesterday and today. It ain't easy, but it has been fruitful ( I hope) and satisfying.

But, I am skeptical or fearful of "expert-ism" when it comes to this venture. I am fearful of a "sanctified" arrogation I guess--at least on my own part. It seems the pastor often ends up having his preferences in music.

For people in the pew, I fear an undercover lust for gospelpianobanger music, masked by a pseudo-highbrow, external appreciation of "god-centered music." This is not making the sense I had hoped. I'll stop for now...
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6 Comment from: dissidens [Member] Email

Sam:

I am more hopeful than you may suppose and also more disheartened than you may suppose; it depends on what part of the picture we are looking at.

I don’t deny (and never denied) that there are individuals, even whole churches, which have a better handle on the problem than most. But that fact notwithstanding, these heroic few don’t set the tone for the whole. [Ask any of those few; they feel like they are at Thermopylae.] We’re not talking here about personal merit or individual discretion; we’re talking about the culture. I think our confusion about this discrepancy is very revealing.

We have this tendency to think that only the bits we approve constitute “our culture”. We’ve heard it here from Jeff Overstreet, a gaggle of fundamentalists, assorted neo-evangelicals…and it is deceptive. Our culture is Piss Christ, Dino, Die Hard, Soundfroth, MTV, Sex and the City, and on and on. If one really wants to deal with culture, deal with that.

This is what fundagelicalism cannot do.

Instead what we do is back off, hunker down, voice loud objections, pass some Resolutions and pretend that “our culture” is better than that. So we put Shelley Hamilton on the CD player or watch a Christian movie. So long as we nurture this attitude, I have no hope. We fail to see how the thing we call “Christ-honoring” is really, really bad.

There is hope where people begin to do what all cultured people do: discriminate, critique, discard the bad and choose the better over the good. That, I believe, can be done.

As with Todd Mitchell’s youth molester—or youth pastor, rather—the time has come to sit down with your teenager and have a serious conversation:
“Ok, son, can you think of some prudent ways to distance yourself from this fool or similar fools you might find in a social setting?”

“Well, Dad, maybe when he tries to talk to me about things he thinks are important, I could ask him to buy me an ice cream cone?”

“Well done, my son.”
But in our culture this would be considered misbehavior.

I have two real men in mind here. One has no regard at all for the good. Bach is just ancient rock to him and Bosch was a Catholic painter. To him a congregation swaying side to side while singing Leaning on the Everlasting Arms is good. All his children know is what their teachers tell them; good is not something you discuss with Dad.

The other man knows that Bach is good (what I take to be your meaning when you fear “the expert”), and knows enough not to accuse him of being a rocker, but he doesn’t know why he is good. He listened to junk all his life and in middle age he buys a few classical CDs. He can repeat things he’s heard here and there, but no discussion with him can go very far. And since he doesn’t know why Bach is good he cannot know how some people who are not Bach are also good and why other people who are not Bach are bad. His mind is split between approved and not approved, not between good and bad.

These two men are not even the extremes, but they accurately represent the sort of spectrum of thought that exists. This is where the battle is currently being fought. What we need are people who have a genuine knowledge of what is really good (not just approved) and why.

We will never get back what we lost, but I do think we can exercise ourselves to keep what remains. And we do that as civilized people have always done: Do not discard what you don’t understand; Put yourself under competent teachers, not unctuous pretenders just because they carry a Bible; Learn the disciplines necessary to discriminate good from bad; Learn to suspend judgment, prejudice is not a virtue….

I am hopeful that good can be done; I am discouraged to see what people suppose is the right way to do it.
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