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Out Of The Heart
02/13/09
Out Of The Heart
Our calendar has chosen to concatenate its horrors by putting Friday the 13th and Valentine's on consecutive days. But I will not be intimidated; I shall return serve with a little heat.
Horror #1 solemnizes Maria's love for her sugardaddy god.
I purchased a beautiful 2-toned burgundy/gold pickup truck back in December. When I first saw it on the lot, I never dreamed it would be mine-but God has a way of spoiling me! The day before Valentine's Day, I was driving home from work and suddenly heard a loud CRACK. I knew that I'd taken my first rock and would probably have a horrible scratch on my vehicle. When I looked for the damage I found it on the windshield, just left and well below my field of vision. When I studied the hit, I realized it was in a heart-shaped design. What others may see as a fault is now an awesome sign to me-a reminder of my Savior's love. As I drive, I not only thank God for this wonderful truck, I thank him for this symbol he's etched in the glass just for me!
Horror #2 is the honky-tonk Blessed Hope of an influential fundamentalist church musician. It falls, unsurprisingly, a tad short of the ardent anticipations found in The Celestial Country, but it's a hit with east coast worshipers.
Horror #3 comes from Oaf & Twinky, two renowned American ecclesiolologistics experts known more commonly by their stage names, Doug Pagitt and Tony Jones. This is a bit of imbecile improv in the shape of some post-platonic flossfy. As they astutely perceive, "all sorts of crazy stuff happens".
So there you have it, saintly reader: faith, hope and love in reverse order. Christianity American Style.
Happy Holidays.
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1 Comment from: Todd Mitchell [Visitor] 
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I've recovered from being speechless after Horror #2. Horrors #1 & #2 might pale in comparison. They are silly nonsense, of course, but Horror #2, long popular in worship there, is so perverse, and so perverts, right inside the city gate, that I'm still shivering with horror. How many are there who have been taught to love the "glory" this music extols?
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02/13/09 @ 07:42 2 Comment from: Todd Mitchell [Visitor] · http://www.firstbaptistgranitefalls.org
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Correction: "Horrors #1 & #3 might pale in comparison."
Apparently when I typed this I had not yet recovered from the trauma of watching Horror #2.
Apparently when I typed this I had not yet recovered from the trauma of watching Horror #2.
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02/13/09 @ 09:15 3 Comment from: dissidens [Member]
Man, I don’t know. I’m glad I’m not a judge in this county fair.
All three examples come from people who, like the woman at the well, don’t know what they are worshiping: each a victim of his own unchastened imagination.
I think I’d have to give the Blue Ribbon to Oaf & Twinky because they are “thinking this through”. I must give them extra points for outrageous pretense. The other two seem merely to be twitching reflexively.
But again, a very tough call.
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02/13/09 @ 12:42 4 Comment from: exlibris [Visitor]
Man alive, diss, least ya' coulda' done was provide us some air sickness bags in which to blow chunks!
I went to the sites, and wished I'd taken your word on it.
hurl . . . retch. . . . cough . . .. drool . . .flush
I went to the sites, and wished I'd taken your word on it.
hurl . . . retch. . . . cough . . .. drool . . .flush
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02/13/09 @ 20:37 5 Comment from: dissidens [Member]
Heheheh.
Remember those sites in case you ever accidentally swallow some poison!
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02/14/09 @ 06:31 6 Comment from: a hungry soul [Member]
For the record, there are at least a few east coast worshipers who wouldn't tolerate such abomination as #2 illustrates. Those people will get near my children over my dead body.
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02/14/09 @ 10:13 7 Comment from: dissidens [Member]
hungry:
Oh, I know.
I say this occasionally, though probably not enough to keep everyone happy. There are exceptions. Unfortunately the exceptions prove the rule. No question there are some people who find this repugnant, but they are more and more being “Amished”.
The practical problem is that a remnant does not make a culture.
People with children listen to this and never walk out. They actually appreciate it! These are people who claim that God manifested his glory at Mt. Sinai, and they also believe that Clif helps us “enjoy the glory of God”.
Here is what is believed in the Honky-tonk Bible Church:
…we have include [sic] a selection of these on the HBC Website for your enjoyment to the Glory of God.Even Richard Foster sees that entertainment masquerades as worship. (So we know from the start we aren’t talking rocket science here.)
Everyone knows something is wrong which no one can make right.
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02/14/09 @ 11:11 8 Comment from: Brent Marshall [Member] · http://bemarshall.wordpress.com
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Listening to #2, several mental images came to mind: boardwalk, cotton candy, club . . . I had not settled on which image "fit best" when I was instead overcome by a profound sadness. Had I not already known the song whose melody was hidden within, I do not think that it would ever have occurred to me to link this to God or church.
Actually, I would prefer that persons listening to this never think of God or church. Though I think it wrong to ignore God, I think it less dangerous to ignore Him altogether than to think of Him in the manner suggested by this rendition.
In considering this, I recall a remark of A.W. Tozer that I read today over here:
Tozer was not speaking of exactly this, but I think that it fits nonetheless. Unfortunately, the two main groups identified in that quotation have now come together in that many of the young people who knew only such degeneracy are now in positions of leadership and are, not surprisingly, perpetuating the same. No matter how orthodox in doctrine or articulate in the pulpit, persons should not be viewed as strong spiritual leaders when they allow God, the place that He dwells, and that which He loves to be portrayed in such a way and thus contribute to the debased affections of those in their spiritual charge.
Actually, I would prefer that persons listening to this never think of God or church. Though I think it wrong to ignore God, I think it less dangerous to ignore Him altogether than to think of Him in the manner suggested by this rendition.
In considering this, I recall a remark of A.W. Tozer that I read today over here:
The sad thing about all this is its effect upon a new generation of Christians. Whole companies of young people are growing up who have known nothing else but the degenerate brand of Christianity now passing for the religion of Christ. They are the innocent victims of a condition which they did not help to create. Not they but a spiritually emasculated leadership must answer for their plight.
Tozer was not speaking of exactly this, but I think that it fits nonetheless. Unfortunately, the two main groups identified in that quotation have now come together in that many of the young people who knew only such degeneracy are now in positions of leadership and are, not surprisingly, perpetuating the same. No matter how orthodox in doctrine or articulate in the pulpit, persons should not be viewed as strong spiritual leaders when they allow God, the place that He dwells, and that which He loves to be portrayed in such a way and thus contribute to the debased affections of those in their spiritual charge.
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02/14/09 @ 20:50 9 Comment from: dissidens [Member]
Would that fundamentalists had remembered this.
Now more than ever, the times demand a faith with an eternal aspect, a durable, non-parochial hope. Can a single genuine fundamentalist picture Abraham, St. John, Tertullian, Augustine, Pascal, Edwards, Machen or Tozer gathered around Clif Boyce’s piano?
Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?
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02/16/09 @ 07:08 10 Comment from: exlibris [Visitor]
More to come . . .
check this out:
http://foxforum.blogs.foxnews.com/2009/02/16/joseph_hollywood/
Now we go to the movies with BJU. Perhaps they can persuade their preacher-boys to leave preachin' and start makin' movies. After all, they are now getting national attention IN Hollywood.
check this out:
http://foxforum.blogs.foxnews.com/2009/02/16/joseph_hollywood/
Now we go to the movies with BJU. Perhaps they can persuade their preacher-boys to leave preachin' and start makin' movies. After all, they are now getting national attention IN Hollywood.
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02/17/09 @ 09:02 11 Comment from: Neoclassical [Visitor]
This summarizes it:
It turned out that one of the recipients was a preacher who afterward told the press that he felt that he was being called by God to leave preaching and go into movies.
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02/17/09 @ 09:06 12 Comment from: dissidens [Member]
Well, if they manifest the same consummate skill in movie-making as they have in music arrangement and sermon delivery, all will be well.
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02/17/09 @ 11:32 13 Comment from: exlibris [Visitor]
do a detect the snarl of facetiousness?
hehehe
hehehe
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02/17/09 @ 12:17 14 Comment from: dissidens [Member]
I like to think of it as a hope-filled expectation of failure.
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