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The Thing After Modernity

02/15/10

Permalink 05:58:16 am, by dissidens Email , 429 words, 2598 views   English (US)
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The Thing After Modernity

So I would define post-modernism as the thing after modernity, and when I think of modernity I think principally of the enlightenment, I think of reason, I think of progress, umm, or what I would probably say is the myth of progress. And so when I think of post-modernity I think of whatever, as far as philosophy, as far as uhh, zeitgeist of the age, whatever is going to come after that.

And for myself, I'm a pastor in a downtown neighborhood, and when I reflect on post-modernity I'm actually quite excited about it because I think that it, for what I do, it breaks open the possibility of getting beyond...well, I guess I would say...what I said earlier about, umm, thinking that science and reason is going to provide an ideal way in the future primarily. I think the 20th century has proven that's not the case and that's primarily why we even have post-modernity.

So I'm a pastor of a new, smaller church and umm, we're taking the neighborhood...we're really wanting to narrow in on this neighborhood, and crafting a way of life within the neighborhood, that connects local service and relationship amongst the people that have signed up for this journey, with Christian spirituality. So, what we're trying to do is, what we believe is joining God's work in the neighborhood by integrating a way of life that connects service, relationship and spirituality.

---Tim Soerens

For those of you who might desire some light diversion, here is a hilarious video.

Also for those who have friends suffering from clinical depression or if you have co-workers who casually raise questions around the water cooler about effective means of suicide, or if you know someone who keeps a picture of Dr. Kevorkian in his wallet, you need to pass on this link.

Their problems will vanish inside of 18 minutes and they will skip home whistling What A Wonderful World.

Here are four young brainiacs: a graphic artist, a student of architecture, an owner of a coffee bar and Pastor Tim Soerens to define post-modernism.

Tim Soerens has worked out that post-modernism is that thing that comes after modernity. He is also knowledgeable about "the zeitgeist of the age" and is an ardent proponent of "otherlyness".

Tim actually holds two degrees, believe it or not: a B.A. in Rhetorical Sciences from the University of Wisconsin-Madison, and a Masters of Divinity from Mars Hill Graduate School, Seattle, (both of which I think make this video especially moving).

You might save a life today.

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1 Comment from: Todd Pruitt [Visitor] Email · http://toddpruitt.blogspot.com
I love these SNL parodies! Now they just need to fit in the word "generative".
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2 Comment from: dissidens [Member] Email

Yes, generative is one of their god words. Although as they become less and less capable of producing anything or even of maintaining the status quo, I wonder how long that word will be tossed around the Village Green.
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3 Comment from: kraml [Visitor]
For those of us who are text-oriented, the following link might do the same job as your hilarious video link:

http://thepracticingchurch.com/team/

Kraml
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4 Comment from: dissidens [Member] Email

It’s hard to pick a runt out of that litter, but I tend to favor Helen Mildenhall:
My beliefs/doubts: I was a committed Bible-believing Christian from young adulthood until recently (about 17 years). I began to have serious doubts about my faith about six years ago. As a result I’m not currently actively involved in any church or Bible study groups.
This is a day when even truth lacks verisimilitude.
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5 Comment from: SirBtass [Visitor]
I found that video interesting. While Post-Moderism has actually had something of a decent impact on art and design, from what the 3 pros are saying, Soerens just comes off sounding like an idiot. Can't apply to theology what you can to an art/architecture movement. Seems the EC guys just took the language of post-modern design and applied it to theology. Makes sense when talking about art, but when talking about the eternal, unchangeable, immutable Lord of Glory and His Words to His People...... yeah, doesn't work.
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6 Comment from: SirBrass [Visitor]
Sorry about that. Name is SirBRass. The "t" there is just a typo.
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7 Comment from: dissidens [Member] Email

Well, I can go some distance down that path with you. I wouldn’t want to suggest the impact of postmodernism on art is all that salutary, but as a movement, as occupying a place alongside modernism and remodernism, I wouldn’t want to be entirely dismissive either.

But as you say, postmodernism in art and architecture is very different from postmodernism in theology, and certainly very different from anything Emergents are doing. We are comparing apples and cinderblocks.

Emergence has been trying to achieve credibility among those it encourages the most clichéd doubt. It is one thing to say that fundagelicalism is aesthetically dead and moldering--and I’ve been saying that for a long time. But the answer to philistinism is certainly not gimmicks from wannabes like Scandrette, McLaren and Soupiset.

Emergence has prosaic and gauche written all over it.

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