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Wherein Two Pharisees Affirm One Another's Spirituality In A Very Public Place

02/22/10

Permalink 05:41:29 am, by dissidens Email , 600 words, 2407 views   English (US)
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Wherein Two Pharisees Affirm One Another's Spirituality In A Very Public Place

It is a common—but perhaps understandable—misconception that Emergents desire that everything should change.

God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men [are] who go on too long and not make good points.

Hanna: I wanted to tell you how impressed I was with the way you handled the man, [Joe], at our [event] who stood up and talked about how we need to put your ideas into action. I felt uncomfortable as he was speaking, like he was going on too long and not making good points. He even told you that we all knew what you were saying already. You were totally unthreatened by him and you actually had all of us applaud when he was finished. I was so surprised by that response from you. You didn't shut him down or belittle him in any way. In fact you did the opposite. You thanked him for his comments and even went back to them later when you were answering another question. I loved all your stories and listened intently to what you said in your lectures, and the way you handled [Joe]'s comments was the thing that really stuck with me.

I realize that all of this is probably about me and my own issues and where I'm at.

Last night I attended the Zydeco Mass at the Cathedral, which is a riotous Eucharist with a zydeco band playing. It draws our most colorful members out of the woodwork. Afterward, I attended the Cajun dinner and was seated next to two men who at first made me uncomfortable because they were a little bizarre. One man kept referring to women in his life as "prostitutes," the Latinos in his life as "Mexicans," and he even knew some "lesbians." He referred to others who were "living in sin," etc, etc. The other man was a professed alcoholic who was drinking wine. So at first I was uncomfortable. Then I thought about how you were so unthreatened by [Joe] and you actually welcomed him. I tried it out. I just listened, because they both seemed to want to talk. As I listened I felt my usual misgivings about these men and I almost said to the one man, "if you're in AA and you understand your alcoholism, then why are you drinking tonight?" But I decided to just listen because that was clearly what they needed. They both had been through a lot of hardship. They both had sparks of divinity shining through all their weirdness. A couple times friends attempted to rescue me from their conversation but I stuck with it. And it turned out that we were the last people to leave the hall. The alcoholic paid me a compliment saying, "thank you for being who you are. Just your presence is wonderful," which is about the best compliment I've ever received. I felt totally safe and unthreatened. It was such a neat experience. Thank you for inspiring me to accept people on their own terms. It ended up being really good for me!

I feel like it's the start of an interesting journey in my life.

Brian: I've experienced this again and again in my life too - when I'm tempted to pull away, but I remember that a follower of Jesus always "moves toward the other" with nonjudging love and respect and a willingness to listen ... and, as Hannah says, a desire to see the image of God in people who at first seem to us unlikely.

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1 Comment from: Guest [Visitor] Email
Rather helpful that he posted a testament to his greatness on his own blog. We might have lived the rest of our lives without realizing the power of the prophet in our midst. I miss the old days when men of God would just go out and heal a dozen people to prove themselves. I guess a blog post is the 2010 equivalent. These are sad times we live in.
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2 Comment from: dissidens [Member] Email

Yep.

If we don’t toot our own horns, we just let others slobber all over our mouthpiece!
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3 Comment from: exlibris [Visitor] Email
Okay, perhaps I'm warped and perverse, but what we have here is Middle-Age Man (Brian Mc.) in awe that some female thinks he's hot. His own ego blinds him to the fact that Hanna's overindulgent compliments somehow light his fire, and he wants to share it with the world.

The subtext of Hanna's message was "Brian, I think you are so cute when you handle other people. I can be cute too. In fact, if a lush believes just my presence is wonderful, couldn't you? Indeed, my patient stiff-arming of these two unwashed persons reveals the fact that I'm saving myself for you."

Brian has groupies . . . and his ego doesn't even allow him to deconstruct his own motives for so enjoying this post.

Brian - late-middle-aged wannabe rock star posing as emergent "church" leader.
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4 Comment from: exlibris [Visitor] Email
almost forgot. . . could St. Paul had Mr. McLaren in mind: "leading captive silly women"?

Mind you, to all those emergents out there, this is not a sexist remark. It is a remark about character. "Silly" just happens to modify "women" in this context. What modifies Brian, the man, seems much more reprehensible.
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5 Comment from: dissidens [Member] Email

Well, I’m not prepared to go that far, but it is clear these people are very impressed with their own moral superiority. I think it’s nice they can enjoy their advanced spiritual condition and that they feel comfortable sharing it with the world.

A lot of people wouldn’t do that.

If only Jesus had been a little more transparent with his disciples he could have made a week’s worth of blog posts out of his conversation with the woman at the well.
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I am still young, so I ask those who know more than I. Have other evangelical movements of the past been as self-absorbed as the emergent church? Emergents seems to genuinely enjoy every moment spent staring into the mirror. Even when they praise another, it is often with the intent of praising themselves as well.
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7 Comment from: dissidens [Member] Email

I would say generally that vanity is a temptation to all of us. Have there been some spectacularly vain Evangelicals? Sure.

And some spokesmen have been nearly luciferian in their pretentions, but I think that by the nature of the case emergents are especially susceptible in a way they have not recognized.

There is the whole nest of problems surrounding “the book deals” and the accompanying resentments. (You’ll hear many complaints throughout the movement about the book deals.) And part of the problem is their “mode of evangelism”.

Taking McLaren as a prime example: what has he done? Has he earned a reputation as a competent literary critic? Is he a scholar? Is he a great preacher? Was he a successful leader of EmergentVillage? Does he have the charisma of a Billy Sunday, the appeal of Billy Graham? Does he have a message that broad Evangelicalism really wants to hear?

Emergents have blogs. Self-congratulatory and self-promoting blogs. They get interviewed and invited to conferences… They twitter incessantly. Anyone who visits brianmclaren.net encounters nothing more interesting than one ego. Just today there are three posts all about Brian and his new book.

Brian McLaren makes Tammy Bakker look modest and retiring.
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