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The Critic Speaks

03/15/10

Permalink 05:50:28 am, by dissidens Email , 725 words, 2027 views   English (US)
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The Critic Speaks

I don't really know the right way to respond to the recent accusation that I am a critic. On the one hand I'm tempted to thank my mother who always encouraged me to express myself, to thank my wife for sticking with me through the lean years, to thank the Academy....

On the other hand, being critical of fundamentalist culture doesn't seem to justify such a high honor. I might have been just as honored by receiving a Nobel Peace Prize for putting on my socks.

But it does give us an opportunity to repeat what I take to be an important point.

We are speaking here about a culture: a set of virtues, values, and aspirations, a presumption about what is permissible and what is unacceptable. Fundamentalism has a culture; it permits things, it honors things, and it condemns things. This is not news. We were saying this in April of 2005, and it wasn't cutting edge stuff even then.

A few are curious to know how I'm different from Fundamentalist culture. To satisfy that curiosity would involve a cumbersome list of dissimilarities, but one of the more obvious dissimilarities is cunningly concealed in the word culture. I am not a culture. I have never been a culture, and I've made no preparations to become a culture.

This is surprisingly important to bear in mind. As objectionable as I might be to some, it's a bit of a reach to equate what I write with what a culture does.

When we look at a culture we see three essential components. Culture isn't limited to the arts, but I will use the terms from the art world. It won't be hard for you to make the applications.

There are the poets, the painters, the dancers, the artists; the people who give expression to ideas the entire society considers. Then there are the critics who bring a certain skill at explaining how successful that expression is. And finally there is the audience. We may tend to think that the audience is the least important because it is the least skilled. In a sense it is the most important because it is really in the audience that these ideas live healthy lives. What an artist makes and what a critic judges is really not all that significant if it doesn't help the people in the audience make widgets, enjoy their leisure, and bury their dead.

Some resent the presence of the critic. We know fundamentalists do.

But before we accept their judgment we should think about what a society would be like if it didn't have critics. We at Remonstrans had the uncanny prescience to arrange a demonstration.

You will recall our suggestion that you read the poetry of Adele Sakler. Some Emergents came over to thank us for recommending her work, and they did this with a view to discouraging us: they thought that by letting us know that we unwittingly advanced her reputation, we'd think twice about doing that again!

But if you read their justification of Ms. Sakler's work, you'll notice that they had nothing to contribute on the subject of its quality. No one could tell us what was good about it. What did they say?

They commended her for being strong enough in her faith to share her struggles and her doubts. If she'd howled at the moon they would have been satisfied. They respected her blog for being a place where people can come to discuss theology, experiences, and feelings. Even they do not like her work; they engage in exercises of personal validation. How Sakler compares to Rossetti is beyond them.

If you want to see a culture that celebrates drivel, check out Emergence: the dead end of American Evangelicalism. They don't do art over there, they validate personal expression. And while we're sure they see personal validation as a great thing, they forget that the audience gets nothing out of it.

And all of this is not too unlike Fundamentalists who honor inept leadership because they prefer "men of action". They validate activism irrespective of what it produces. Don't ask them what kind of action we should honor, just validate the activism.

Whether the audience is helped? whether the whole is benefitted by the blunders of the few? that escapes their concern.

I'm wondering if this is wise.

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1 Comment from: kraml [Visitor]
Perhaps T. S. Eliot will provide a bit of the horizon from which to view the situation:

"One of the features of development, whether we are taking the religious or the cultural point of view, is the appearance of skepticism--by which, of course, I do not mean infidelity or destructiveness (still less the unbelief which is due to mental sloth) but the habit of examining evidence and the capacity for delayed decision. Scepticism is a highly civilised trait, though, when it declines into pyrrhonism, it is one of which civilisation can die. Where scepticism is strength, pyrrhonism is weakness: for we need not only the strength to defer a decision, but the strength to make one. --T. S. Eliot, "Notes towards the Definition of Culture," in Christianity and Culture (San Diego: Harcourt, 1976), 101-102.
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2 Comment from: Warren [Visitor] Email
Based on the link you provided I visited her site to peruse some of her work. I left (after only a few minutes) with the distinct impression that Emergent types revel in self-centeredness and self-pity. Nothing new there. "What faith?" I pondered. I even recommended a possible solution to her Lyme's Disease and my comments were summarily deleted. I suppose she prefers the art of self-pity above all else. I felt I was watching a toodler scribble lines across a page in wax crayon. But at least with a toodler there is a sense of innocence and cuteness.
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3 Comment from: the divine passive [Visitor] Email
I don't know if there's an official lexicon of current Evangelical terms, but from my own experience of asking obvious questions, "critic" means roughly "Mr. Poopy-pants" and is topically indexed to Mt. 7:1.
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4 Comment from: dissidens [Member] Email

kraml:

Well, and I think most are already a few steps removed from healthy skepticism.


Warren:

These people were raised with victimology. Like crying to an infant, it is the only way the inarticulate can get attention.
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5 Comment from: dissidens [Member] Email
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6 Comment from: threegirldad [Visitor] Email
[Rewind, press "Play"]
You're a hypocrite!

[Rewind, press "Play"]
You're a hypocrite!

[Rewind, press "Play"]
You're a hypocrite!
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7 Comment from: Sam Hendrickson [Visitor] Email
ooh, ooh, I see it! the nearly, almost poetical annagraham--"in the attick." Had Quayle become president, perhaps this would have been his selection for po-it lariat...
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8 Comment from: dissidens [Member] Email

yeah like her pomes are so cool
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9 Comment from: Sofros [Visitor] Email
Read this for depth of thought concerning fundamentalism:

http://sharperiron.org/article/i-learned-it-from-fundamentalists
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10 Comment from: dissidens [Member] Email

Read it for depth of thought, breadth of experience, and profundity of insight.

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11 Comment from: exlibris [Visitor] Email
I went and read that article and I burst out in joyous hymnic reverberations of such celebratory tunes like . . .

"Everything is Beautiful, In its Own Way"
"Kum-By-Ya" (sp?)
and
"He's Got the Whole World in His Hands"
Just $8.99 from K-Tel records, because MHS won't duplicate this schlock.

What? Did I miss something?
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12 Comment from: dissidens [Member] Email

I used to think “Abandon all hope, ye who enter here” was the saddest phrase in the English language. Now I must replace that with an even sadder one: “Under the tutelage of Fundamentalists”.

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13 Comment from: de profundis [Visitor] Email
I was reading some Wordsworth last night and came across this:
...more like a man
Flying from something that he dreads than one
Who sought the thing he loved.
I thought it a rather marvelous bit of poetry. I wonder about its applicability to Fundamentalism. Has the sound and fury of the past few years been running scared from obsolescence or a longing for lost Love?
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14 Comment from: dissidens [Member] Email

Two things.

For all of our readers, you really ought to read the entire poem.

http://classiclit.about.com/library/bl-etexts/wwordsworth/bl-wword-tintern.htm

Compare the interior life of Wordsworth to that of our strutting “men of action”. Wordsworth was a worshiper of nature (again, worship in its proper sense). Compare his religion to that of our current clerics.

And to the point de profundis raises, do we really have evidence of Love, either now or then, or do we have the wreckage of rancor and antipathy?

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15 Comment from: Observer [Visitor] Email
Dissidens,

How do you properly judge the "interior life" of men?
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16 Comment from: dissidens [Member] Email

Observer:

I'm still wondering if you've given any thought to my question?

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17 Comment from: Observer [Visitor] Email
Dissidens,

One, I'm not sure if that was a question or a statement.

And two, I'm genuinely interested in understanding how to compare the "interior life" of men. I'm referencing the main point of Comment 14.
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18 Comment from: dissidens [Member] Email

Observer:

Perhaps this confusion is my fault for presuming a useful attention span. Let me be more specific:

http://remonstrans.net/index.php/2010/03/08/signs_of_the_times#c6893

Tell me, that preposterous anti-calvinist tirade that Dan Sweatt (BJU grad) delivered at the Wilds, and Bauder’s (president of Central Seminary) subsequent publication of anonymous e-mails in support of his opposition to Fundamental Baptist Fellowship’s sponsorship, would you call that typical of Fundamentalist culture? Or was that a rare exception?

I’m genuinely interested in hearing your response.

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19 Comment from: Observer [Visitor] Email
Dissidens,

I have a great attention span, but you made a statement with a question mark at the end, so I wasn't exactly sure what you were getting at.

And I would not call that "typical of Fundamentalist culture," since I don't believe there is a homogeneous, undeviating "Fundamentalist culture."
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20 Comment from: dissidens [Member] Email

Observer:

That’s very interesting, because I used these examples for particular reason.

If I understand you, you are saying that men such as Sweatt and Vaughn and Doran and Bauder, and institutions with the influence of a Central Baptist Theological Seminary of Minneapolis, Detroit Baptist Theological Seminary, Bob Jones University and the Fundamental Baptist Fellowship International could generate all this heat among Fundamentalists during these two episodes, and you aren’t prepared to say whether the behavior was typical or exceptional?

All you can say is that you “don’t believe there is a homogeneous, undeviating ‘Fundamentalist culture’”.

If I were to ask for your own personal definition of “culture”, do you think you could provide us one?

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21 Comment from: Observer [Visitor] Email
Dissidens,

You said: "and you aren’t prepared to say whether the behavior was typical or exceptional?"

If I'm not mistaken, in Comment 19 I very clearly said that I would not call it typical.

Could you provide us with your definition of the "Fundamentalist culture"? I ask that because you speak of it so frequently and with such derision, and I believe that it is pertinent to the discussion, not my definition of culture.

See, you label all of these men and institutions as equals in this "Fundamentalist culture" when I do not believe they are all same. Maybe this is where the conversation comes to a standstill. You consider Sweatt, Vaughn, Doran, Bauder, Central of Minneapolis, DBTS, BJU, and the FBFI all equals, and they're not. Do they share similarities? Yes. But I do not believe they are all part of this "Fundamentalist culture" because I do not believe there is a monolithic "Fundamentalist culture."
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22 Comment from: dissidens [Member] Email

Observer:

You are a most perverse reader.

I did not say that the men I listed were equal. I never said anything remotely like that. I fear you must go back and read for the first time what I did say.

You’ll notice quite quickly that the word “equal” doesn’t appear in the comment, nor does any synonym of equal occur. In fact, Observer, you can browser-scan this entire screen—both post and comments—for the word “equal” and you will see that it never appears until you use it.

I can understand why you do this, but please stop thrashing this way. It’s bad enough when Emergents do it.

I don’t consider these men equal; I certainly don’t consider these institutions equal. If I were looking to establish equality, Sweatt would not have made the cut.

I think they are nevertheless representative of Fundamentalism. Sweatt represents an incoherent and uninformed anti-calvinist strain. Vaughn is the president and CEO of FBF. Bauder is the president of Central Baptist Theological Seminary and of WCTS, its radio station. Doran is the president of Detroit Baptist Theological Seminary and pastor of Inter-City Baptist Church.

I do not say these men are equal; I point to the fact that each represents a recognizable segment of American Fundamentalism. Put these men together in public to thrash out their differences in the ways I’ve described, and you most certainly do have specimens of the movement.

I said that I understood why you use this ploy: your post would have been conspicuously short if all you could say was, “I have no personal definition for the word culture.”

Shall I take that as your final answer or would you like a second shot?

What is your own personal definition of “culture”?

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23 Comment from: Observer [Visitor] Email
Dissidens,

I will say that "equals" was a poor choice of words, since you did not use that exact word. I retract that, and I apologize for misleading the conversation.

My problem with you saying that all of these men are "representative of Fundamentalism" is that I do not believe there is a monolithic, homogeneous Fundamentalism as a movement or culture. There is too great a diversity and disparity within people that claim the name "Fudamentalists" for me to say that these men/institutions are "representative of Fundamentalism."

My personal definition of "culture"? Well I don't have a personal definition of culture, but I'll use this: "the customary beliefs, social forms, and material traits of a racial, religious, or social group."

I ask you again: could you define the "Fundamentalist culture"?
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24 Comment from: Observer [Visitor] Email
Dissidens,

I repeat my question from Comment 15: how do you properly judge the "interior life" of men?

I ask this because in Comment 14 you ask us to compare the interior life of Wordsworth to that of the "men of action" that I mentioned in the discussion from last week.

In the context in which I used that phrase, I was referring to men like Doran and Bauder -- men that are leading the church through the expositional teaching and preaching of the Word and by the preparation of men (and congregations) to carry out the Great Commission.

So since you told us to compare their "interior lives" to Wordsworth's "interior life," I am wondering how we should do that. What is the standard? How do you decipher one's "interior life" from another?
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25 Comment from: dissidens [Member] Email

Observer:

The purpose of a culture is to preserve a sensibility, which is to say “the habit of right feeling”.

By “Fundamentalist culture” I mean that hairball of trivialities, mediocrities and banalities that preserves what is “right feeling” in the eyes of Fundamentalists. It is manifest in things like Majesty Hymns, SMS, WCTS, the children’s nonsense marketed by the Hamiltons, FBF Annual Resolutions, Bible college and university student handbooks, private correspondence…. (That last item, you may want to note, contains two links. One is a blog, the other is private correspondence made public by the author—so out of the mountain of stuff that exists, I am betraying no confidences in linking to this one. You asked; I’m answering.)

And it’s no good telling me a) you don’t know about it, b) you don’t approve of it, c) everyone doesn’t approve of it, or d) it represents a few disgruntled and clearly unbalanced people. You asked about Fundamentalist culture, this is fundamentalist culture; not because I say so but because that’s what culture is for every human being: all that “stuff” which preserves attitudes, prejudices, predispositions…in a word, a “sensibility”.

A simple example is BJ’s racism: who spoke up against it? Who was called on the carpet for it? How did the “movement” treat this glaring bigotry? Who stood up to read Scripture in that moment? Where were these thundering prophets of Fundamentalism? Preaching a sermon against pants on women perhaps? Writing a booklet about the rock beat? Writing a history of Fundamentalism in America?

If you want fewer specifics and more general categories:

Fundamentalism is characterized by a distrust of and an aggression against the conscience

A profound hypocrisy that treats the wrongs of the enemy as capital crimes, and wrongs of the friend as “sinning on the side of the angels”

An obsession with power and institutional intrigue expressed by what Tulga called “dominant and domineering personalities”

An unrepentant factionalism (which you could have learned from Tozer)

A cultural apostasy resulting in an abandonment of traditional values and practices (which you could have learned from Machen)



As for your second comment, it shows a profound ignorance of the interior life. I’m not sure you could understand the answer if you heard it.

The two examples you gave, expository preaching and the preparation of men for the Great Commission, are being done more effectively by those your bunch is calling “conservative Evangelicals”! And this does not even begin to address the question of whether your prerequisites are even relevant! Did Christina Rossetti preach expository sermons? Did Christina Rossetti prepare men for the Great Commission? Could you learn anything about the interior life from Christina Rossetti?

Once again, your own culture betrays you.
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26 Comment from: Guest [Visitor] Email
I realize that both Bauder and Sweatt are fundamentalists. However, in some ways, they possess very little in common. They don't even share a similar metaphysical dream.

At what point do the sensibilities and that which preserves those sensibilities of two men differ so much that they can rightly be said to be of different cultures?
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27 Comment from: lilrabbi [Visitor] Email
Man, Fundamentalism is bizarre. I went to a conference several years ago at Detroit and they made it clear that Faith and Central were of the Keswick line. But BJU and Detroit seemed to have a very strong comradeship. I say this because the lady that was forced to resign was pointing to the Keswickian thinking on the BJU campus. There were only a few who followed that thinking at Faith and they were not consequential. I'm not saying this to defend one over the other, just to show how confused and confusing these folks are. I came away from that as a high schooler with my first inkling that there is something more factional than intellectual driving the car.
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28 Comment from: Observer [Visitor] Email
Dissidens,

Thank you for the reply. It was very interesting and shed more light on where you are coming from and your thoughts/feelings on the "Fundamentalist culture."

I was not trying to change the subject or dodge the question when I said that I do not see Fundamentalism as a homogeneous, monolithic movement. I brought that up for a reason.

I have spent my life in Fundamentalism. I have heard many of the men that you mentioned preach; I've been to many of the different institutions at some point. And never have I seen all of the negative things (both specific and general) that you laid out. Sure, I’ve heard some silly preaching and the occasional careless message against CCM or rock music. But in no way has that been the pervading “culture” of Fundamentalism – in my experience.

I am not questioning your experiences or the experiences of others. But my problem with painting all of Fundamentalism with the same broad brush is that when I read your description of Fundamentalism and its "culture," all of it is foreign to me. Maybe I’m an anomaly.

I think “Guest” has a point when he/she points out that though Sweatt and Bauder both claim the name Fundamentalist, they share very little in common. I believe that was a main point of Doran’s posts last week, as well – i.e., if all of these different people and institutions are claiming the name “Fundamentalist” or “Conservative Evangelical,” while there is a great diversity of doctrine and practice within each label, what good is truly coming of these labels?

We have to find pastors and churches and institutions that we believe are true to the Lord, both in properly handling and applying the Word and in faithfully carrying out the Great Commission, not who claims which label.

We do disagree, but I appreciate the explanation, dissidens.
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29 Comment from: dissidens [Member] Email
Guest:

That’s a hard question to answer for several reasons. I really don’t think Bauder and Sweatt are all that different. To me they look like identical twins; they could be bookends, and it’s just unfortunate that someone put Calvin’s Institutes between them. Sometimes the most spiteful feuds exist between siblings. You can’t assume that the violence of a controversy measures accurately the profundity of disagreement.

Both these men are welcome on BJU’s platforms. Their prejudices were shaped by the same narrow religious culture, and that culture defined itself along rather crude lines.

Yes, I know: severe differences existed for a long time between, say, a GARB, BJU and Jack Hyles. But here was a movement that always and everywhere defined itself as a rejection of Liberalism and neo-evangelicalism. That made for strange bed-fellows.

There is a very misleading statement: “The enemy of my enemy is my friend”. Not true! The enemy of my enemy might, if circumstances require, be my ally. But wait till the war is over and see if they remain friends.

The current tremors merely reveal ancient fault lines.
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30 Comment from: dissidens [Member] Email

lilrabbi:

Very true.

And the whole thing is unraveling for several reasons, only one of which is the current environment. The whole Sweatt/Calvinism thing exploded in a way it couldn’t have before blogging, and as my links show, these differences are now the stuff of blogs and Twitters.

Now the young and impressionable don’t have to drive 530 miles; we can fight a nuclear war in our pajamas.

Bad time to try to get this genie back in the bottle.
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31 Comment from: dissidens [Member] Email

Observer:

I think this begins to reveal the problem. (A problem being sketched out again over on SI.)

We cannot define a culture by our own experience. In fact this is one of the benefits of a useful culture: it opens a window on a reality that transcends personal experience. It often gives meaning to our personal experience.

It has become comical for me to hear Fundamentalists (and Evangelicals) deflect criticism of their movements by saying that all those objectionable bits weren’t part of their formative years. This is silly.

Our prejudices come to us quietly and while we are young. We aren’t told they are prejudices. They don’t feel to us like prejudices. They feel like convictions. What we must do is put our prejudices in a frame. Look at the history of this movement. Look at what it sells. What has it fought over? Look at the way it expresses itself. What does it think is beautiful? How does it say its worship is appropriately voiced?

It’s too convenient to say, Well, Frank Garlock doesn’t represent my wing of Fundamentalism and my church doesn’t use Majesty Hymns or Patch the Pirate.

or

Fortunately my church never housed a WCTS!

Look at the entire phenomenon as a movement and it becomes uncomfortably clear what its enemies despise.

We can’t do as they do on SI and suppose “our movement” has writers and theologians equal to the best--but they were unfortunate enough not to have a way of disseminating their brilliance. Fundamentalists have had presses for a long time; better presses than the Moravians had. What do they publish?

GARB has published a magazine for a few years now. What is in it?

What sort of infrastructure does it take to write a great hymn? Where are the great Fundamentalist hymns? It’s not that they couldn’t be recorded, distributed and cherished. We’ve had plenty of CDs recorded and distributed. What in them is worth cherishing the way Wordsworth and Rossetti are cherished? What insights has this struggle for purity of life and doctrine produced for Christians of all times and places?

What have all these Bible college touring troupes shown us? They’ve been around for decades sharing their Fundamentalist, in-house schlock. Is there a Murder in the Cathedral I don’t know about?

I’m sorry; I think J. Gresham and I live on either end of a booboo.

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32 Comment from: Regulative [Visitor] Email
Dissidens,

I enjoy reading a lot of what you write. Could you point me to the theology, history, poetry, or exposition that you have in print?

Thanks!!!
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33 Comment from: dissidens [Member] Email

Nope.
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34 Comment from: Regulative [Visitor] Email
Dissidens,

I really would like to read one of your books. Could you give me one of the titles?
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35 Comment from: dissidens [Member] Email

Nope.
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36 Comment from: Camille Lewis [Visitor] Email · http://www.drslewis.org/camille/
I came away from that as a high schooler with my first inkling that there is something more factional than intellectual driving the car.


That's a good sign! If you understood it all as a highschooler, then that would probably be a sign that actual scholarship is not at work. Seminary lectures and peer-reviewed academic writing should be above your pay grade at that point in your life.

But it was a pleasure to have confused you. ::curtsy::
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37 Comment from: lilrabbi [Visitor] Email
They've got you now, Dissidens!
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38 Comment from: dissidens [Member] Email

Yes, I think Camille models the attitude for us right there.

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39 Comment from: Regulative [Visitor] Email
Nothing like being prepared to criticize as doing nothing yourself. You shame us with your lack of productivity, Dissidens. If we could only match your personal standard. No hymns, no poetry books, no histories, no commentaries, and no theologies in print. With you it truly is "do what I say, not what I do." No embarrassment of riches. But it is understandable, as you probably lack the infrastructure and the press to get that done.
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40 Comment from: lamentans [Visitor] Email
You aren't posing as Regulative just to make painfully obvious the point of your post, are you, Dissidens?

Unk is right. They prove your points for you in their comments.
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41 Comment from: dissidens [Member] Email

Regulative:

You raise an interesting point, Regulative. You might help advance my literary career if you could explain your reasoning here.

Because I have nothing published, how did you conclude that I have done nothing? Or how do you rule out the possibility that perhaps having done something, I have not done it well? Or how do you know that what I have done is good but not marketable?

Who is my target audience and what publisher(s) would you recommend? Have you spoken to any editors or agents about my projects?

Thanks for any insight you might be able to provide.

Together let's get the ball rolling here!



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42 Comment from: dissidens [Member] Email

lamentans:

Well, really, I’m posing as a whinging ignoramus in order to generate interest in my work among major publishers. I’m hoping to parlay my immense blog audience into a lucrative publishing contract.

If this scheme fails, I plan to go on American Idol or Survivor.

Let’s hope it doesn’t come to that.

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43 Comment from: a hungry soul [Member] Email
Diss on American Idol--that would almost be worth violating my own prohibition against turning on the tv. Thanks for the best laugh I've had all day. :) (Survivor? I thought you already were one!?!)
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44 Comment from: dissidens [Member] Email

Man, I never gave much thought to the possibility that I might drive TV ratings through the roof! I may have to reconsider my strategies.

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45 Comment from: lilrabbi [Visitor] Email
You already look like Grizzly Adams, so Survivor might work!
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46 Comment from: dissidens [Member] Email

Looks to me like at ther Grizzly Adams feller spends way too much time at the barber shop gittin' all prissied up.

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