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Ye Olde Hat Shoppe

06/07/10

Permalink 05:56:36 am, by dissidens Email , 541 words, 521 views   English (US)
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Ye Olde Hat Shoppe

We are still considering the hope that the children of postmodernism might yet reclaim an earlier tradition. Friday we observed that a culture is not made up of a few things you can pick up at a Super Walmart. A culture makes us what we are, it is a complete set of coherent choices, a collection of judgments about everything. It is something held in common with other people. You don't get to concoct a culture for yourself and a few friends who like votive candles and think U2 is a cool band.

Culture is not like a new hat you can buy when people start laughing at your old hat. Culture is what tells you whether a hat is worth having, what sort of hat is appropriate and which store will have the hat you need. Some of you will remember the beginning of the story when Bertie Wooster brings home a silly hat, an inappropriate hat for a man of his station. And you will remember that by the end of the story he finally accepts the judgment of Jeeves and allows him give it to a hobo who has lost all self-respect.

But let's set this fact aside for a moment and recall the words of these children of postmodernism and the choices we've seen them make.

  • At the TAG conference it was important to answer the question: "Christian theology after Google says what about what you can put in your mouth and where you can put your genitals?"

  • One pervert—who has even been to seminary and has a full selection of views on Hell to choose from—said: I don't believe in hell, if your definition of hell is a burning pit where bad people go for all eternity. (I reserve the right to wish for a hell for child rapists. I do wish it for them. I want no forgiveness for them. They deserve to go to hell, in the classical sense. Other than that, I don't believe in it.)

  • Dave Hayward goes on and on and on about how he has outgrown his church, how he is free, and how he has "found his voice". He contrives this Z-theory which would embarrass even the man who ended up wearing Bertie's hat.

  • Jana Riess asks "What Can We Say About God in 140 Characters or Less?"and then takes the opportunity to pass snarky judgment on the very text that reveals God.

  • Dave Henson thinks he knows more about Pentecost than the Apostles, Evangelists and the billions of us who have believed the Apostles and Evangelists.

  • Danielle Shroyer extrudes a religious ideology from stories Moses never told.

But notice the commonality: as ridiculous as each of these beliefs is on its merits, notice how they all emerge from an obsession with the self, with a rejection of the institutional church (which they often call the IC). This talk about community is a ploy: they have rejected the largest, most intellectually coherent community of faith they've ever known. It is impossible for these people to create community out of cultic impulses and spastic stabs at self-actualization. It can't be done.

Where is the postmodern impulse to understand and preserve a culture?

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1 Comment from: d4v34x [Visitor] Email
I think an answer to your question may be that the rejection of truth takes many apparently noble forms that ultimately must be inconsistently applied.

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2 Comment from: dissidens [Member] Email

Hmmm. Not sure I’ve seen any nobility here, but that comment may have been sardonic. I’ll leave that alone.

Let me ask it this way. The children of postmodernism could not be respected citizens in either Jerusalem or Athens. What would their culture look like if they had their own city?

That is to say, don’t tell us how their sundayschool utopianism would ruin Jerusalem or Athens, tell us what their own city would look like. Would it pay tribute to Chelm? Would it have liturgical finger paintings in a big marble building for its children to view on schoolday field trips? Would Adele Sakler and Mark Scandrette be its poets laureate? Who would be the music director of its philharmonic? Would it have an orchestra or a kazoo band?

In a word, if emergents weren’t smack-talkin’ fools, what would they contribute to human culture?
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3 Comment from: the divine passive [Visitor] Email
Could emergents settle together with no one around to compare themselves to but themselves? Wouldn't they kill one another within days because each man thought himself profounder than his neighbor? Emergents are more or less parasitic on other cultures, being unable to create, define, or imagine their own. I see them as bums panhandling on the exit ramps leading out of Jerusalem and Athens. Maybe they could scratch together a Gypsy camp if their meds were strong enough.
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4 Comment from: dissidens [Member] Email

Probably not.

But I wouldn’t compare them to Gypsies who, after all, have a culture about as ornate as their caravans. A gypsy could tell you what he believes and his spouse would be a woman and play a very traditional rôle as wife and mother. A Gypsy wouldn’t be caught dead saying he was losing his faith and finding his faith and losing his faith and finding his faith and losing his faith and finding his faith and losing his faith and finding his faith and losing his faith and finding his faith...and he wouldn't take the opportunity at a theology conference to discuss oral sex.

I think postmoderns strive to mimic the culture of homeless people, especially in their dumpster-diving theology.
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5 Comment from: d4v34x [Visitor] Email
Yes, I used apparent as having the mask of, and used it in reference to your "understand and preserve" a culture" question, which, frankly, I misunderstood.
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6 Comment from: Joshua Allen [Visitor] Email

What would their culture look like if they had their own city?


I think it would look like Gomorrah, as described in Charles Williams "Shadows of Ecstasy".
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7 Comment from: dissidens [Member] Email

I like that thought.

Care to develop it for those readers who have sinned a great sin and never read Charles Williams or Shadows of Ecstasy or Descent Into Hell?

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8 Comment from: Trevor Magee [Visitor] Email
Howdy again, I notice you are linked in to a site called "By Grace Alone" & you are in the Dallas area. Usually when a church or ministry is called Grace whatever, it is graceless, likewise I find you so, but consistent enough for a Reformed Texan. Do you also wear a big hat & drive a truck? I liked the Jeeves & Wooster reference though, so you can't really be as bad as you make out...
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9 Comment from: dissidens [Member] Email

It’s turning out to be a frabjous day.

I can’t speak to the By Grace Alone blog, but I wish them well. With a name like that I can be pretty sure they’re not Emergent.

I am in the Dallas area and I do drive a pickup truck. (I prefer a Dodge because the name on the hood lets people know what to do when they see me coming.)

I do not wear a big hat: as it is, all my homies in Brooklyn, NY, will not let the pickup thing go; I can’t imagine what they would do to my loved ones if they saw me in a big hat. Wearing a big hat crosses a line you bumpkins wouldn’t know anything about.

Remonstrans is just the place I can come to look adorable and leave a favorable impression: in real life I am far worse than I make out.

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10 Comment from: Trevor Magee [Visitor] Email
Maybe I caught you in a weak moment but in comment 7149 you almost come across as human, but if I am mistaken then I apologise unreservedly. Nevertheless you definitely have a mellower side & for that I am heartened as I had thought up to now you were just a pull string doll with a predictable line in running people down. I sure hope you don't drive that truck the same way you blog, I imagine you are a model citizen & this is your alter ego, you might even be a cross between Jeeves & Bertie Wooster, jovial, yetimprobably well-informed and as talented as a hick Texan can be.
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11 Comment from: dissidens [Member] Email

No, you didn’t catch me in a weak moment. The moment before that one was a little wobbly, but I recovered nicely.

Apology accepted.

The last time anyone said I came across as almost human was when I was beating up a Quaker.

Many Texans are hicks and many Irishmen are louts; I try not to pass judgment based on popular stereotypes. For instance, many of the Irish people I know are under-educated, over-lubricated and violent sub-humans; and then there’s William Butler Yeats.

I think you see my point.

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12 Comment from: BLT [Visitor]
I was hoping comment 7146 was going to be further developed. I shamefacedly confess my ignorance of Charles Williams.
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13 Comment from: Joshua Allen [Visitor] Email
@BLT - dissidens was right; I meant "Descent into Hell", although "Shadows of Ecstasy" has some great parallels. I posted more at http://remonstrans.net/index.php/2010/06/18/good_medicine. If you read only one quote from "Descent", read the first one in my comment there. I'm nowhere near as articulate as Williams or Dissidens, but you can fortunately read both for yourself.
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